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Thursday, February 4, 2016 9:44 AM | 1 vote
I have the following three questions:
Is Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise the same?
Is Windows 10 IoT enterprise and Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB the same?
I already have a windows 10 Enterprise PC. Should i purchase a separate license for Windows 10 IoT Enterprise?
- Arun KM
Arun Kumar M
All replies (19)
Thursday, February 4, 2016 5:13 PM ✅Answered | 7 votes
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. The IoT is just a marketing spin to align with IoT Mobile and IoT Core
http://annabooks.com/Articles/Articles_IoT10/Windows-10-IoT-E-Addendum-1%20Rev1.4.pdf
Sean Liming - Book Author: Starter Guide SIM (WEI), Pro Guide to WE8S & WES 7, Pro Guide to POS for .NET - www.annabooks.com / www.seanliming.com
Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:35 PM ✅Answered | 4 votes
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is the marketing SKU name for the Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB edition that is available through the Industry OEM channel. Enterprise LTSB is the same base OS as Windows 10 Enterprise without the store UX, Cortana, Edge or any of the UWP applications that are serviced through the store such as News, Sports, Finance, etc.
An 90 day EVAL image is available on Microsoft Windows Evaluation Center
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise
Friday, February 5, 2016 4:34 PM ✅Answered | 2 votes
Again, it is noted in my article: http://annabooks.com/Articles/Articles_IoT10/Windows-10-IoT-E-Addendum-1%20Rev1.4.pdf
There is Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. The LTSB version is Windows 10 IoT Enterprise. The non-LTSB version is for PC and Tablets that will be updated every few months. Enterprise LTSB / IoT Enterprise will be updated every few years, and it is the only version licensed to IoT/Embedded OEMs.
Microsoft has implemented a Linux like support model for the two types of customers - PC/Tablet and IoT/Embedded. The PC/Tablet will be on a faster update track. The IoT/Embedded will be on a slower, but long term supported version since these system are typically around for 10 years.
Sean Liming - Book Author: Starter Guide SIM (WEI), Pro Guide to WE8S & WES 7, Pro Guide to POS for .NET - www.annabooks.com / www.seanliming.com
Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:25 AM ✅Answered | 4 votes
Hey Arun,
now the statement from the Avnet side.. :-)
We have to differentiate between the technical side and the licensing side.
On the technical side, the Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSB is the same as the "normal"
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. But: Not on the licensing term side.
The normal version is only available over the volume channel and as well as CB, CBB and LTSB version.
Volume channel is for internal company use only (Standard enterprise IT channel).
The IoT Enterprise is only available as LTSB version over the Embedded IoT channel, the Embedded OEM is
allowed to resell the licenses with their own solutions (bundled with HW).
So that's why the products are handled as 2 different products as the licenses terms are different.
Best regards,
Martin
Thursday, February 4, 2016 9:55 AM
i dont think they are the same, check this Windows 10 for the Internet of Your Things
Thursday, February 4, 2016 10:13 AM
I have gone through this URL already and it does not helps in understanding / clarifying my queries.
So i am looking for more information to understand the difference.
Arun Kumar M
Thursday, February 4, 2016 10:23 AM
something like this?
Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:35 AM
Sorry, I will rephrase my question then,
Is Windows 10 IoT enterprise altogether a new OS image i.e., completely different from Window 10 Enterprise Desktop edition?
(or)
Is it just an additional license over Windows 10 Enterprise desktop to unlock the features of Windows IoT enterprise?
Is Windows 10 IoT Enterprise OS image available for download in MSDN subscriptions and if available then what is the term i have to use so as to locate this image in MSDN subscriptions?
Arun Kumar M
Friday, February 5, 2016 6:50 AM
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
The following URL mentions that Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is actually Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSB
http://esg.teldevice.co.jp/product/microsoft/windows10iot/index.html
Page 11 of the following PDF also mentions that "Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSB" and "Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB" are two different variants.
http://www.embeddedcomputingconference.ch/pdf_2015/S3R6_Avnet_Silica.pdf
Can you please clarify on this.
Arun Kumar M
Monday, February 8, 2016 1:45 PM
Hi Sean,
Thanks for the reply.
The following is the URL i am referring to:
http://www.embeddedcomputingconference.ch/pdf_2015/S3R6_Avnet_Silica.pdf
In the above URL, I could see two LTSB versions:
- Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB
- Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSB
This is making me confused......
Please clarify.
Arun Kumar M
Monday, February 8, 2016 5:56 PM | 1 vote
Hi Arun,
You are asking Microsoft about an Avnet pdf. You have been provided with the Microsoft answer by Sean, an IoT MVP / Windows Embedded Expert & Zeeshan, an IoT Team Member. However, if you are still confused by the Avnet post, maybe you should ask Avnet to clarify their pdf for you? Avnet is a distributer and will be able to tell you what is involved with the purchase of each version of Windows 10.
Sincerely,
IoTGirl
Monday, February 8, 2016 7:08 PM
I work with Avnet, and my last post is the answer to the slide. The slide deck itself could be better constructed to not be confusing without a verbal explanation.
In my Windows 10 IoT Enterprise training class, I find it takes visual + verbal to communicate the message.
Sean Liming - Book Author: Starter Guide SIM (WEI), Pro Guide to WE8S & WES 7, Pro Guide to POS for .NET - www.annabooks.com / www.seanliming.com
Tuesday, February 9, 2016 2:22 PM
Hi All,
Thanks for the timely responses and valuable clarifications.
Arun Kumar M
Friday, April 15, 2016 6:03 AM
Hi All,
We are study & trying to work on Windows 10 IoT Enterprise.
Found that, only it is work with x86 board, please correct, if we
wrong.
If above information is correct then please give us some
reference on Windows 10 IOT Enterprise with x86 board with
peripheral like bluetooth(BLE) & Wifi,mic+speaker support.
( like Windows 10 IOT core on Raspberry Pi 2)
Also, Please share If any Windows 10 IOT Enterprise trial version
available for testing purpose & flashing procedure for board.
Thanks in advanced,
globe_mac
Friday, April 15, 2016 6:55 AM | 1 vote
Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is really Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. Windows 10 IoT Enterprise is just a marketing name.
So yes, it only work with x86 boards.
i assume you can download trial versions from your msdn account but you can ask the proper forum
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/home?category=Windows10ITPro
Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:56 PM
why do you kept avoid the original questions ???
Monday, June 26, 2017 4:59 PM | 2 votes
Hi Michael,
The original questions are all answered
Is Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise the same? Yes. See Sean's answer above
Is Windows 10 IoT enterprise and Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB the same? Yes, 2015 denotes when the LTSB drop was taken. See Sean's answer above.
I already have a windows 10 Enterprise PC. Should i purchase a separate license for Windows 10 IoT Enterprise? This is actually a license question. See Martin's answer above.
Sincerely,
IoTGirl
Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:45 PM
Just to confirm the above - for the new version of W10 it is still the same, I mean: W10 Enterprise LTSC and W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC are the same thing technically, the only difference is licensing?
In this article:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4464619/windows-10-update-history
both versions are mentioned separately:
Affected platforms:
- Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019
- Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2019
regards,
Alex
Tuesday, October 9, 2018 8:47 PM | 1 vote
Hi Alex,
They are the same code base but licensed differently based on their intended usage.
Sincerely,
IoTGirl