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DNS _sites shows old AD sites and servers

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Monday, November 15, 2010 4:41 PM

We are in the process of migrating to a 2008 AD from a 2003 AD domain and are seeing some things that we want to make sure are okay before continuing.

Under the _sites section of our forest zone in DNS we show site names that are no longer part of the network and some of the sites contain server information (_ldap and _kerberos) under the _tcp section for the site and the servers have been removed form the domain.  Looking under AD Sites and Services these sites and servers are not shown, but some of the servers did have issues when using dcpromo to remove them as domain controllers and from the domain.

If we run repadmin /showvector /latency <DC=domain,DC=net> we see several lines of what appear to be SID's with unknown or older replication dates and then our active servers and today's information (see below).

Are we able to manually remove the no longer active sites and servers from DNS without effecting AD and are there other areas we should look at to remove these as well?  Do we need to worry about the SID's with unknown or older replication dates/times on them?

 

Caching GUIDs.
..
e8e6dbd5-1cd5-4d06-8fce-64fdc3fd7c16 @ USN    881171 @ Time (unknown)
47a0aad8-8496-4a78-b148-d8b97cd4d52f @ USN   1290839 @ Time (unknown)
bbd3346b-69a5-443c-9c84-d629f276b269 @ USN    230044 @ Time (unknown)
10d1d302-ea94-4fe3-9533-5101b40170fb @ USN     10805 @ Time (unknown)
e3b3e5fb-5bc1-43ae-9e45-f0f696a94711 @ USN     21991 @ Time (unknown)
359e4ce0-2cba-4242-b4ba-22cc5abc3ac0 @ USN     23672 @ Time (unknown)
80294cec-bcb8-48e6-82cf-8887994a8d20 @ USN    186006 @ Time (unknown)
77449190-14fc-4aa8-86fe-fce95d7340da @ USN    233436 @ Time (unknown)
26d4b16f-c3f8-4dbe-8a43-bb0740de397b @ USN   1320625 @ Time (unknown)
c50a83c9-0d5a-4926-a63a-ed1bf1dc1907 @ USN    217084 @ Time (unknown)
2d5c887f-1334-4ae0-b544-7ad8e5deb4f7 @ USN   1220149 @ Time (unknown)
d1983f81-5079-4f53-9702-bafc16b1e134 @ USN     10418 @ Time (unknown)
0b8d573a-0d9d-4165-b726-9b5838ab9d27 @ USN   6348544 @ Time 2008-02-08 13:41:28
99a00b18-3825-44c6-b3b3-f14fa242bfd4 @ USN  18673072 @ Time 2008-07-03 15:28:36
e1a8cff3-a2d7-4c85-af51-b2fcdc1dd18a @ USN   1096393 @ Time 2008-08-12 07:19:36
ec866f04-61c3-4752-9385-96e33368ef14 @ USN    731288 @ Time 2008-09-02 08:38:16
1302e9b6-11f1-405c-a3c4-d8dce7992109 @ USN   3537830 @ Time 2008-10-14 09:47:25
b464cd46-3a70-4784-b0fe-71545661d0a4 @ USN   6178327 @ Time 2008-10-15 12:12:18
2a9cb447-5d63-4313-9985-e544c7488672 @ USN   4048911 @ Time 2008-10-22 16:01:38
1aa12d58-876d-43c6-8552-8b6cb7ec3e3e @ USN   3568903 @ Time 2008-10-28 12:56:48
686432ad-fa3e-4534-bcad-29481bb55b06 @ USN    523890 @ Time 2009-04-14 07:01:49
13a92f71-e7a7-4984-9d9a-c69cde067148 @ USN   8057482 @ Time 2010-08-03 14:58:12
15b97621-fad9-4b5f-a1b6-3ea68d822f0c @ USN   3864404 @ Time 2010-10-06 14:33:58
0eda970b-f195-415f-9df3-1032a3a753e5 @ USN   1949735 @ Time 2010-10-11 11:39:01
04c67c20-7b92-4c24-b499-af6a5c668f85 @ USN   2928702 @ Time 2010-10-12 11:31:21
5939e069-4f41-4a15-9592-36d5a6b3e905 @ USN    848341 @ Time 2010-10-14 11:17:10
3deb1838-4508-481c-a0c1-52ae7d1a56cc @ USN   2070603 @ Time 2010-10-21 09:38:03
5ca633c1-d10d-4fe2-9029-6af22573e06d @ USN    104174 @ Time 2010-10-29 12:28:31
30acd297-e02f-453b-940c-748def834cb8 @ USN   2851717 @ Time 2010-10-29 13:23:17
servername\sitename                      @ USN     70808 @ Time 2010-11-15 08:56:56
servername\sitename                          @ USN    118740 @ Time 2010-11-15 09:26:55
servername\sitename                          @ USN    193023 @ Time 2010-11-15 09:26:55
servername\sitename                              @ USN  13390641 @ Time 2010-11-15 09:33:18
servername\sitename                             @ USN    799452 @ Time 2010-11-15 09:33:35

 

All replies (6)

Monday, November 15, 2010 11:58 PM ✅Answered | 1 vote

SOunds like you still have old DC data in the AD database. Check out the steps below to use Metadata Cleanup to see if there are any listed DCs that you know don't belong and haven't been properly removed.

Complete Step by Step Guideline to Remove an Orphaned Domain controller
http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/archive/2010/10/05/complete-step-by-step-to-remove-an-orphaned-domain-controller.aspx

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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:06 AM ✅Answered

The GUIDs are a historical record of all DC's that have been installed in your environment.  In general it is kept in case any DC is restored from backup.

More Information.

Understanding where AD replication vector information is stored
http://networkadminkb.com/kb/Knowledge%20Base/ActiveDirectory/Understanding%20where%20AD%20replication%20vector%20information%20is%20stored.aspx 


Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:46 AM ✅Answered

Hi,

For the legacy DNS records, you can remove them by using the steps in the KB article 216498 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216498.

As for the old GUIDs showed in the output of the command, it is by design. If a DC is demoted, the object metadata will be cleaned up from AD. However, its Invocation ID will still exist in Up-to-dateness vector table. It will not cause any issue.

Thanks. 

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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:45 PM

Are we able to delete the orphaned sites under the DNS domain.local zones since they are no longer in use?


Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:35 AM

Hi,

Generally speaking, the site name under the DNS zone will be removed after you delete the site in Active Directory Sites and Services console.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc779837(WS.10).aspx

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Monday, November 22, 2010 7:27 AM

Hi,

How's everything going?

Please feel free to respond back if you need further assistance.

Thanks.

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