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how to disable Windows 10 2004 S0 Low Power Idle "Modern Standby" to enable S3?

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Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:14 AM | 1 vote

with previous version, setting

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power]
"CsEnabled"=dword:00000000

worked well.

But the update to 2004 brought S0 back to my DELL Latitude 5401.

S0 is no standby! - if i touch my desk and the mouse moves, then the notebook wakes up and stays on forever...

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Monday, June 8, 2020 6:14 AM

Hi André, 

I found you post another thread with similar issue about upgrade will reset power configuration. We recommend to configure power plan again and check if it works on Windows 10 2004 system. 

If you have multiple computers, please monitor if others devices encounter same issue. We also could update Power driver to latest through manufacturer website and then upgrade to check if the issue occur. 

Bests, 

Joy.

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Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:54 PM | 4 votes

Simple answer: You cant anymore.

Long answer: Whoever is responsible for this at MS, needs to get fired. Modern standby never worked, doesnt work and wont ever work reliable. It is dangerous and a horrible design fail since over 5 years now. It cant be fixed.

The most disgusting thing is, that Ms STILL provide NO GUI to configure ANYTHING for modern standby. There need to be made the following changes into a GUI:

1. deactivate modern standby easily and give switch to use S3

2. deactivate ANY wake device you want to disable for modern standby, including all USB devices, laptop touchpad, laptop keyboard, no BT staying connected

3. disable 100% event processing for modern standby

Until these changes are made, Windows 10 is a NOGO OS for ANY laptop. This is just INSANE and MADNESS.

If you still want to disable modern standby, read this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/h0r56s/getting_back_s3_sleep_and_disabling_modern/


Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:10 AM

Right on. I am astonished Modern Standby is being forced down our throats.


Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:20 PM

Windows 10 Modern Standby (Modern Standby) expands the Windows 8.1 Connected Standby power model. Connected Standby, and consequently Modern Standby, enable an instant on / instant off user experience, similar to smartphone power models. Just like the phone, the S0 low power idle model enables the system to stay up-to-date whenever a suitable network is available.

Although Modern Standby enables an instant on/off user experience like Connected Standby, Modern Standby is more inclusive than the Windows 8.1 Connected Standby power model. Modern Standby allows for market segments previously limited to the S3 power model to take advantage of the low power idle model. Example systems include systems based on rotational media and hybrid media (for example, SSD + HDD or SSHD) and/or a NIC that doesn’t support all of the prior requirements for Connected Standby.

The number of systems capable of S0 low power idle model is increasing and more systems are expected to use the always on, instantly available power model instead of the traditional S3/S4 power model. The Modern Standby section outlines important changes, partner requirements, and best practices for enabling Modern Standby.


Saturday, June 13, 2020 7:25 PM

Question - how to disable modern standby

Answer - none, just a boring history lesson.  And a direct copy and paste from here - https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/modern-standby

People don't want their laptop to behave like a phone, hence they don't want modern standby


Monday, June 22, 2020 9:52 AM

Hi, 

Any update?
If any reply is useful for you, please mark it as answer.

Bests, 

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Tuesday, June 23, 2020 7:04 AM

The Latitude 5401 is not my own, but from my employer, so i cannot install other boot loaders...

I will check the 3 other DELL notebooks i have access to...

But it would be very kind, to have a switch within Windows power settings to disable S0.

For me there is no use case for S0! - Now i am forced to use hibernation...


Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:44 AM

My XPS 13 drain 50% in sleep mode with S0 enable. This is the most useless function. I don't see any use cases for a laptop. 


Wednesday, July 22, 2020 12:41 PM

Thanks for saving me from having to type as your response is spot-on.  Microsoft is insane in forcing this on us.  I run an enterprise with 2000 PCs and I will not deploy 2004.  I cannot run the risk of having a laptop burn up in a bag because it won't sleep.  At least let us get the CSDisabled back so we can function.  Without this, Windows 10 2004 is dead in the water to me.

Right now my laptop is set to hibernate when the screen is closed or the power button is pressed.  That is as close as I can get to having a functional laptop.  I fly over 40x per year and knowing that there is going to be someone with a laptop asleep in the overhead bin catch fire is not a pleasant thought.

I'm inclined to mention this to the NTSB, maybe they'll ban all Windows based laptops until MS gets their act together and realizes a laptop is not a phone and should not be treated as such.


Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:50 PM

This is very unfortunate, after what  I have endured with the XPS 15 9570 and MS, I will be moving on over to apple. I have wasted too much time troubleshooting and fixing for this to be a high end laptop. 

I have found that unticking sleep, and enabling Hibernate throughout works for me. On the XPS 15 9570, the laptop would constantly reboot while waking up from sleep and causing me to loose all work. Hibernation so far has provided some solace, waiting for the new Macs with ARM chipslater this year, and it's bye bye to Dell and Microsoft.

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